Requests open! She was able to stem Dracula's hatred and bloodlust for humanity and genuinely loved him. … Don’t get me wrong, we all know Alucard is bi since Nocturne of Recollection, but he didn’t deserve to be betrayed. Give false testimony, even under the pain of torture and threat of death? A subreddit for the video game franchise and Netflix Original TV Series Castlevania. They could be mistaken about what they were viewing. Sometime during the mid to late 11th century, he served in a company of knights alongside then Baron Leon Belmont. Unless Castlevania has something similar to ghouls concept in Vampire: The Masquerade. The church may be corrupt, they may have been in the wrong every step of the way, but so long as they maintain the sanctity of their order, then their rule is tantamount to the word of God. So why weren't either of them able to prevent her death? Maybe Hell isn't actually that bad? Maria Renard: Maria Renard looks slightly different on the Sega Saturn version of the game. They are not to be completely trusted. A Castlevania blog sometimes used as Mathias Cronqvist/Dracula RP. Castlevania is an American adult animated streaming television series on Netflix produced by Frederator Studios.Based on the Japanese video game series of the same name by Konami, the first two seasons adapt the 1989 entry Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse and follow Trevor Belmont, Alucard and Sypha Belnades as they defend the nation of Wallachia from Dracula and his minions. If asking for reactions please no more then 3 characters at a time. It's kinda glossed over. We use a [Watsonian point of view](http://fanlore.org/wiki/Watsonian_vs._Doylist), versus Doylist. A subreddit for the video game franchise and Netflix Original TV Series Castlevania. If one thing is clear in the Castlevania universe, it's that God takes no pity on humans. my little boy by FlabbergastedFelon Oh, if this could have happened… my heart breaks. And what afterlife did they believe in, then? Lisa (リサ, Risa?) Written by. I can think in other explanations about why the speakers don't worry about hell: Sypha has a very positive opinion of Yeshua The Christ, the son of god, about the changes he added in his father's doctrine. Those are all good reasons for being sent to Hell, in total. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Plus, Dracula is God's evil counterpart in the Castlevania universe. Lisa is in Hell, but she's not being punished- she's there to be with her husband. All rights reserved. edit: I refer you to Isaac's conversation with Fly's Eyes, one of the damned souls he brought back from Hell. Hell. The Speakers are probably just mistaken. ),is a character in the Netflix original series, Castlevania. With Mathias's brilliant military strategies and Leon's skill with a sword, their company was unstoppable. No communion or confessions? And that the rules for being sent to hell are pretty strict - cant resist torture? It doesn't matter that she was making him a better or good person; she wasn't making him Catholic. Further, she stayed with her lover despite knowing he was a monster and taking lives as he fed. Further, she stayed with her lover despite knowing he was a monster and taking lives as he fed. Spoilers ahead. Disappointing for YWH, sure, but not necessarily a unforgettable sin if they compensate it with good deeds (like they do). Hector and Alucard deserve better. Basically, she was complicit in all of Dracula's Crimes while she was with him and because she never repudiated or attempted to bring him back to the fold of Catholicism she might well also be guilty of her own apostasy. It's like Ask Science, but for all universes other than our own. didnt seem so. Press J to jump to the feed. Any theories? Netflix’s anime hit Castlevania has returned for a fourth season, with Richard Armitage, James Callis, Jaime Murray and other stars returning to voice the beloved video game characters. Given that she would age and die, it was an option for her to stay together with Dracula if he turned her into a vampire. She was burned at the stake after accusations of witchcraft, which led to Dracula's rage many years ago. Since you are using Hell I assume the Bible matters. Me and a Alucard writer just had the funniest indirect interaction and that was their idea and I’m just XDDDD Context, Alu was crying over those … Hell. Dracula Castlevania Lisa and Dracula Lisa tepes Dracula tepes Vlad dracula Țepeș Vlad dracula tepes Castlevania Netflix Castlevania season 4 Mathias Cronqvist 643 notes Apr 29th, 2021 Open in app ), and even if that displeases him they can't be condemned for that. 1.1k votes, 23 comments. Another possibility is they're thinking they're doing the right thing by confronting God's will (was it the Babel Curse? Insulting the clergy? On the other hand holy water, blessed by a truly faithful priest, does work. They also refuse to use writing as a way to save knowledge, which is certifiedly dumb. It would be like Abraham would have disobeyed God by refusing sacrificing his son Isaac. Learning magic, even with the noble intent of healing people? yet, faith and crosses and holy water do seem to have a real effect on vampires. For Love. Alucard seems to be as knowledgeable or even more that Sypha, and he laughed at the idea of God not liking her. On one hand the Speakers, a group of highly learned nomadic scholars with access to magic who are committed to doing good and who seem to know more about the magical/cosmological nature of the setting than almost any other group, are convinced God hates them. Edit: It seems they did get married, but again, he's an Apostate and a Vampire, so the marriage was likely a secular one and not a religious one, which the Church might not accept. I can easily see that being the kind of thing that earns a person damnation, context be damned. I doubt anything in hell is stupid enough to so much as look at Lisa even when Dracula is alive. Thus the whole need for the Jesus to save you. The man later known as Dracula was originally born Mathias Cronqvist. Hell, right away. Because he loved her as she was, meaning a human. Source: cykelops castlevania castlevania netflix netflix castlevania lisa tepes lisa fahrenheit dracula vlad dracula tepes vlad dracula 13,396 notes May 8th, 2018 Castlevania: Gender-bend - Okay, I’ll bite ‘cause my curiosity got the better of me. The overwhelming death of his father pushed Alucard to isolate himself in deep eternal sleep at the end of Castlevania… The people saying she was a sinner according to that world's rules must have missed the part where the priests who accused her of sinning were stated to be lying hypocrites by a demon who had actually come from Hell and knew how it worked. Though all this talk makes me wonder: WHY do the Speakers believe God hates them? In 1797, due to the unexpected lack of a Belmont, Alucard had no choice but to awaken from his slumber to investigate the matter and infiltrate Castlevania. Apparently they spoke of seeing Dracula and his wife Lisa together in that accursed place. Trevor begins to fight off the night creature force, battling a huge demon that destroys the stairwell leading up from the library. Sex with a monster? With the help of Richter's kin, Maria Renard, they were able to find o… I don't really get why it's even up for debate, tbh. What made her special was how she cared and how determined she was despite being “just a human”. A subreddit for the video game franchise and Netflix Original TV Series Castlevania. Lisa (Castlevania) Lisa Lives (Castlevania) Time Travel Fix-It; Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; except for the evil priest/people who murder others; Trevor is bamf; somewhat serious look into 1400's lifestyles plus magic; Trevor is rapidly turning this story into crack; Summary She was killed before that would ever have been a discussion between them though. There is also the idea that Jesus' sacrifice nullified all sins of humanity past and future, so the Speakers posture wouldn't be damning. In most if not all doctrines not accepting Jesus as your saviour is a sin punished with hell (or with the denial of heaven, so that only leaves hell, purgatory or limbo). [Castlevania] Why is Lisa Tepes in Hell? Have a kid with Dracula himself? She was not a vampire, committed no terrible sins the Speakers mentioned, used her knowledge to help others and was actually beginning to turn Dracula himself back to the light. And on a yet another hand we know that Night Creatures are created from souls pulled from Hell. Where are they getting that information from? It isn't about what's fair, it's about what's Holy. Posted on April 19, 2021 castlevania reddit season 1. She was probably excommunicated from the church for marrying Dracula. She could also have made any of the thousands smaller sins that she never repent or get confessed. Season 1 - Episode 1No copyright infringement intended.This video is the intellectual property of Netflix. Which is plausible; neither Dracula nor Lisa appeared to be in any kind of pain or distress. It's possible that the structure of the afterlife does not really mesh with the classical "fluffy cloud heaven vs flaming brimstone hell" model, but may be something more akin to a Greco-Roman underworld (a single space shared by all dead, with areas reserved for those that merit exceptional treatment) or a What Dreams May Come style network of interconnected afterlives (where one builds their own "heaven" or "hell" with whatever they mentally bring in with them). Castlevania-Imagines and Headcanons! He loved her as she was, but I don't think he would have wanted to lose her. Who knows. Have a kid out of wedlock? She was the seed that planted hope for Dracula’s perception on human kind and future collaboration for a better world. Ergo, Hell. Yeah, it seems like the castlevania version of god and the afterlife is much like the old school real life version. What better way to keep his darkness under control than to make it so that he doesn't mind dying again so he can see his wife? Lisa doesn't seem to have aged much between when they met and when she died, but Adrian is obviously fully grown by the time of Lisa's death. It could very well just be that God, in this setting, is very strict. Flyeyes does not mention any infernal flames or pitchforks. See also: Lisa Lisa of Lupu, later known asLisa Ţepeş (リサ, Risa? Created by Warren Ellis and developed by Adi Shankar, Netflix’s ‘Castlevania’ is the perfect amalgamation of eastern animation and western characterization. You can't really expect a system that includes an infinite torture chamber to be just or fair in any way. Her only crime, if you can call it that, was to be falsely condemned and burned at the stake as a witch by a man who so betrayed his oaths as a priest, God forsook the church he was in. Not happy with the season. Problem being, everyone has sinned and deserves to be sent to hell. For Peace. In Castlevania Hell is a real, fully observable place; it's literally possible to open a portal and look into it, and skilled humans regularly pull souls out of Hell. She is the late wife of Vlad Ţepeş and mother of Adrian. did dracula feed during the time he spent with lisa tho? was Dracula's second wife and the mother of Alucard.Although never physically appearing in the Castlevania series before or since, her death served as Dracula's motivation to wage war on humanity, finalizing his transformation into the main antagonist of the games.. She shows no sign of knowing Jesus as her savior. She can have her clinic and get patients there, or visit them at night. It looks like Hell, but it may be something else entirely. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the AskScienceFiction community. Who's to say that God is punishing Lisa by putting her in Hell? [Castlevania] Dracula and Alucard were both alive when Lisa was being killed by a mob of Transylvanians, the latter actually being present when it happened. By some denominations is terribly easy to end up in hell. Lisa: Lisa had appendicitis and Dracula had to go in and remove it before it burst. The way I see it, Drácula never liked being a vampire, he turned out of anger and to find a way to accomplish what he needed to accomplish. Please stick to the Netflix Series. Believe it or not, hell. Vlad dracula vlad dracula Țepeș vlad dracula tepes Castlevania Castlevania Netflix Castlevania fanart Lisa tepes Lisa Țepeș Vlad and lisa 609 notes Aug 22nd, 2020 For Lisa. They might think that's enough to be saved from hell. I’ve only seen genderbent Issac and Hector on Tumblr.com, but is there a … Straight to Hell (apparently). God is entirely good and as such can tolerate no sin in his presence. A subreddit for the video game franchise and Netflix Original TV Series … The events of Lisa's death are reminded to Alucard throughout the game. However, after Lisa’s death, Dracula is so distraught with despair, as demonstrated in this piece by Crimsontangerines that he forgets every other thing that made his life good, including his son Alucard, the only remaining living memory of the love Dracula and Lisa shared. According to a Speaker, during the battle in the Priory, Belnades and Belmont caught a glimpse of Hell itself through a portal. Trying to be a doctor when the Sun turns you into a perfect occupant for a dust pan. He then uses the sword to open a wound on the creature heel that drains it o… Straight to Hell. Or was it already explicitly explained and I just missed/forgot it? They usually just want the women to stay the same. I cant see how a learned, magical culture could live with the idea that they are all going to Hell... unless Hell is different from what most people imagine, or they have a different conception of the afterlife entirely. He discovered Richter Belmonthad been seduced by evil and was controlling the castle. That's an easy one. Maybe it was an illusion, or a disguised demon, to psychologically torture Dracula, who really, really deserves hell. Not really a debate, but something natural to ask. Then she was killed and... Further, she stayed with her lover despite knowing he was a monster and taking lives as he fed. We know that Dracula keeps coming back. Actually, if anything she may have saved lives by being Dracula's lover; Dracula actually travelled the world peacefully without hurting anyone because Lisa suggested it would help him grow as a person. But God couldn't bring Dracula to Heaven since he renounced Heaven so... the next best thing was letting Lisa live on in Hell, but not being punished. There's a good chance theres some truth to this - magic seems to have no problem reaching into the Afterlife, and the Speakers know a fair amount about magic. Right on the nail^ Also want to add that Dracula found light for humans when Lisa was introduced to his life. If she's real, maybe she was condemned by not believing in god (I don't remember she showed any religiosity). if it's pan-theism thing, and hell exists parallel with a neutral underworld, then wouldn't vampires, explicitly cursed creatures harmed by faith, go to hell specifically, rather than a neutral underworld? So either when they excommunicated her or condemned her to death, she was damned. Lisa may have even grown to want to be turned. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the castlevania community. The stated penalty for ANY sin is death and, thereafter hell. Straight to hell. English/Español. Maybe that wasn't Lisa Tepes. We can say it was a necessary evil, not something he would recommend to anyone. Whether through his own work or through his worshippers he will return to life again and again. Now that I think about it have vampires ever been shown on-screen to be hurt by sunlight on this show? Anyone who defends a rule like that, I think, does not understand how bad torture can be. Dracula is a man albiet a vampire man. 7/10 just because Isaac is best boi. Using Morning Star, Trevor lands on its back and attempts to cut off its head before being thrown clear. I think its implied because Lisa wanted to help Dracula respect humans, so he respected her wishes to stay human. Her terrible sin was cavorting with a vampire. And then there's the issue she probably stopped receiving communion, did not get to confess her sins, and refused to renounce him in name of God and the Church. Lisa: Alucard's mother, Lisa is the only human that Dracula has ever loved. She is voiced by Emily Swallow in the English version of the show. My guess is that Dracula was using some kind of magic to extend her lifespan, and Lisa enjoyed being human so she didn't ask him to turn her. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Undoubtedly his work in creating hell spawn with the various beast masters also had a part since, again, she did not protest or attempt to stop it. In real life, men don't change the women they marry. Having a vampire doctor character in the series would be pretty cool actually. Straight to hell. That said I think if he turned Lisa he would taint her and condemn her to a life of pain and doom. It's possible the other speakers think the same and follow Jesus' teachings while rejecting Yahwe's rules (pretty much what most modern denominations do). Who knows. and he didnt create any hellspawn untill she died, right? God is extremely strict and the only way to get into heaven is to be perfectly obedient of his laws. Posted in So for example Lisa didn't want to for some reasons. Dracula's relationship with Lisa is something I want to see in the following seasons because while we can totally accept that he fell for some human coochi, the non-Vampire thing is a genuine mystery. 75.0k members in the castlevania community. Apparently they spoke of seeing Dracula and his wife Lisa together in that accursed place. Lisa’s seen teeth be pulled and arrows pushed out of limbs, and no one, not the toughest man or women, acted so nonchalantly about it. She was likely Catholic and unless they had a very progressive priest, they did not get married. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Undoubtedly his work in creating hell spawn with the various beast masters also had a part since, again, she did not protest or attempt to stop it. Alucard is Vlad Dracula Tepes’ son and in that sense, he should be one of the most important people in Dracula’s life. I think if Lisa lived a full life as a human, Dracula may have eventually turned her. According to a Speaker, during the battle in the Priory, Belnades and Belmont caught a glimpse of Hell itself through a portal. Not saying that isn’t their weakness but has it been shown on screen? While sex outside of marriage is not a sin grave enough to be sent to hell, she clearly did not regret or repent that act(s). there could be some pan-theism thing going on, given that sorcery is all over the place, but the speakers are supposed to be authorities on this sort of thing, and they seem to think it's "hell" and not "the underworld". Press J to jump to the feed. In the Witcher for example, Regis is a doctor, but there higher vampires aren't affected by sunlight. Be a Speaker? 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