And (2) will combustion be possible since there is no oxygen in a vacuum? If you are curious I suggest that you read some of them and see if they seem true to you or not.”, Yes, Lux – there are indeed countless such explanations on the net. F1 + F2 would then be greater than zero, and that defies Newtons 3rd Law. And, even earlier, in 1858, during the aftermath of the Indian Mutiny, or rebellion, or war of independence, the pioneer photographer Felice Beato created dramatized reconstructions, and notoriously scattered the skeletal remains of Indians in the foreground of his photograph of the Sikander Bagh in order to enhance the image. In the rocket’s motor you have pressures caused by the expanding gasses resulting from burning fuel. That combustion process generated the thrust that pushed the Saturn vehicle on to the moon. bit.ly/fakehelix But if they’re shooting out the back towards the ground how can they be pushing the rocket upwards? It means very, *very* close to full vacuum, with so few gas molecules present that it acts just like full vacuum. This is obviously, conceptually and logically flawed reasoning despite any mathematical model fudgery. As pointed out, that is not the case with a rocket engine. So if you open the nozzle all the gas goes shooting out into space within a fraction of a second. The gas would get sucked out of the rocket chamber before doing any work. I would assume that the comment refers to the large rockets that are used for vehicles such as the Atlas missile, or the Delta vehicles, or the space shuttle orbiter. Large rockets are a hoax. cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?…. Thank you for replying. Several models of Stage IV were sent to Arnold Engineering in Tullahoma, Tennessee, where they were installed in a vacuum chamber and fired. I think you know this. www.adastrarocket.com/aarc/res…. Since I have shown the rocket cannot push against itself and is not pulled from above, the area under the rocket must be higher pressure than the area below. Thank you for making that comment. It’s like trying to reconcile the WTC twin tower imagery with any known method of building destruction. One fast look is transpicious. “Another hole in the “push against the air” theory is that the exhaust gasses of a rocket are simply not part of the rocket any more than a cow pie is part of the cow. That is how rocket thrust works. I absolutely love your experiment. Sir Isaac mathematically balances gravity, an accelerated phenomena (considered as velocity), with his concept of (an assumed) inertia which is defined as having a set, fixed and constant, velocity. Real life analogies work great to explain scientific phenomena. When you throw a ball against a wall you do not feel the ball hit the wall because the ball no longer has a physical connection to your body and thus can’t impart a force on it. For starters, is there any disagreement that rocket engines, under certain conditions, can produce thrust? Sir Isaac Newton imagines a cannonball fired from a tall mountain. There was no space travel involved with that engine. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Can you please introduce yourselves to the fakeologist.com readership? Remember that as soon as the nozzle is opened, the combustion chamber becomes part of the vacuum of space as is subject to its laws. The Apple will never stop expanding and growing and taking on mass and weight. What constitutes “large”? Therefore, if we were able to keep increasing the outside atmospheric pressure (from 14.7 at sea level to say 25 psi, to 50 psi, to 100 psi, etc. The one I watched on YOUTUBE makes use of a tube- so the whole apparatus acts like a gun barrel. #infinitePlaneRadio podcastaddict.com/episode/113871801 via @PodcastAddict +10. This is why you need people holding the hose to add an unbalanced force otherwise the hose would not be able to push water through that column anymore, the water column would be diverted and the hose would flop around. The fact that the rocket lifted at all when pushing against ground molecules means that “pushing against” is a good analogy in how rockets fly through the atmosphere.

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